so whenever the backpatting gets too much, i have to remind you i can be quite the bitch too. here's a for-instance:
you know those meme thingys, the [insert day here] [insert number or theme here]? i don't like them. i think sullivan was going to say something about this, and i'd have been happy to vent in his comments, but no. so i had to say something myself. it's time.
i hold nothing against these memes -- no wait i do, otherwise what's my point? i hold nothing against the people who participate in them. the idea itself, well, it's probably quite cool. however, it's entirely possible an entire blog's content could be generated just coming up with answers to these questions. and, this is not my vision of blogging.
and i'll confess here that no matter how much i dig your blog, if i see one of these as an entry, i skim quickly or not at all and surf on. no offense. i'd rather read what you are thinking about, the spontaneous contents of your own mind, and how you answer your own questions. a great example of this is 'one hundred things about me' - 100 independent thoughts. i love those. (still working on thinking about doing that myself)
i only ever answered one of these things -- it was the asian bastard's, and it had a question about have you ever pooped your pants as an adult, and for some reason i felt the need to share that. i answered in his comments, and that was that.
so you see i'm not all that nice. i'm a picky bitch, infact. and now you know.






Now that that's cleared up, where do you stand on online tests? Grins...
I'm kinda conflicted on this one. Sometimes they have a question that interests me, sometimes not. Sometimes the question may make me think and my brain will hop around a few topics and then I'll write something about one of them - or end up googling for something else.
That 100 things list was way too hard, I think I just posted a long entry on various me-ish hooha and decided that would count.
No, you're not nice at all, no sireee. Very upsetting. And such a believable statement too. And there are just so many "How kd is Not Nice" examples out there. Like........ Hmm. Ok, I'll grant you that the poop thing isn't nice, but that's about it.
Hey look, I brought a case of that great hallucinagenic mead! Jon's dad told me the name of a good dealer. And somehow I thought I should wander over here and we can figure out what to do with it. Heh.
Psst - can I hide the mead here with you? Tomorrow's a crappy day and I know I'm going to need some mead, um, fun tomorrow....
Oh, yeah, "picky bitch"... Examples abound.
Okay, I'll give you 'precisionist' and spot you 'idiosyncratic' on the adjective...
...but as to that exact noun, well, we just don't believe you.
Phbbbttt!~~
online tests: if one intrigues me, i will take it and leave my results in the comments of the place i see the test. i will not post it on my own site. period.
i am glad other people take them, though. they are fun.
if you hide the mead here, batgrl, i will promise i'll try to behave. i'm not saying how i will behave, just that there will be behaviour.
give her a shot of vodka in there too.
i think kahlua would be tastier. vodka coffee? naah.
i'll just put a double shot. then we take advangage of her, right?
That's okay... moody bitches are a MASSIVE TURN-ON to me. :0)
Damn that Sullivan goofball - I could have been in here drinking mead and not thinking anything serious! Actually I'll be back - I have to get my butt home right now. But I'm going to drop by and have a cuppa - anything handy! Heh.
I've done maybe 2 of the quizzes -- I think they're uninteresting for the most part. I mean, do I really care what kind of pasta I am? What type of stuffed animal? Nope. Dumb. I think I might've done one or two Thursday Threesomes, but those don't really interest me too much. I do admit to liking the Friday Five, though, most Fridays.
I agree that if the better part of one's blog is made up of tests and quizzes and questions and lists, I'll surf on as well. I want to know what's going on with the person who's writing -- I want to know their thoughts.
It just smacks of "I couldn't think up my own content"
And since the questions are usually either too focused, thus ensuring that everyone answers pretty similarly or too general, thus leaving everyone incapable of making any sort of decent or interesting answer, where does that leave us?
Reminds me of the Simpsons episode with Mulder and Scully where Bart says "When you get a little older, you'll learn that Friday's just another day between NBC's Must See Thursday and CBS's Saturday night crap-o-rama." when This-or-that Thursday becomes just another day between The Friday Five and the Wednesday Crap-o-questionaire.
i take online tests. i am so very ashamed. i take the tests in my wife's cosmo. i think that is indicative of a deep pathology. i have have a need to... hrmmm. i'll just save this for when i want to post my answer to an online test and actually blog about my pathology, thereby ensuring that kd might find some enjoyment in my entry.
See, but I even love how you denigrate yourself, so in your attempts to squash the fandome you've done nothing but endear yourself to us even more. :)
*commits seppuku with a plastic fork*
I kind of like them..
They get me to know bloggers even better..l
If I tell you I loathe the things, can I have some of the mead? Please?
Seriously, I just can't make my brain read the thursday or friday whatever lists. I've tried staring at them, but they refuse to imprint on the old cortex. It's not unlike the phenomenon I experience when I watch Apocalypse Now. One of my all-time favorite movies, but once Dennis Hopper splits and it's a festival of Kurtz? I can't remember a damned thing about that whole last section. It's like a blackout. I may love your blog, but my brain refuses to let me absorb the info in a everybody's-doing-it list.
Sure, I sometimes play with a test. It's interesting to me what tests catch on, how they're constructed, etc. But when you hit a blog with a lot of slow-loading graphics thanks to every test imagineable? It's byebye for me.
I'm still only half-awake, I'm going to step slowly away from the talk of poop and go find more coffee.
By your I didn't mean KD, because of course KD has no such lists. I meant "your" as in whatever blog I've hit that has the latest Friday Whatever list. Geez, where in the hell is the coffee?
"seppuku"??? Help! Someone translate!
Where's the mead? Quick, give some to redsugar!
kd, if you tell me the mead is already gone you realize we'll have to go to someone's fridge and snag something..... Wonder if scott has any lagar in his fridge?
I do them. Not because I like them, but because it keeps me writing *something* during times I don't have much to say. Well, I have a lot to say, I just choose not to say it to a vast Internet audience. I have times where I'm very shy. (ha-ha!)
I'm going through one of those times right now and I have a lot of memes in my blog. The cranky mood will pass and I'll be done with them soon. I hope.
seppuku -- this is serious. we must rush over and render aid in the form of strong drink!
Darn it all, kd, I take those fucking tests just for you. You mean you don't even read the damn things? (sniff) I...I gotta go.
no! the tests, i read. it's those tuesday this and thursday that lists that everyone seems to do.
no, say-say, you have original stuff all the time -- and you find the strangest things on the internet, too.
see, i knew this was going to turn out badly. sometimes, my opinions just get so ... opinionated. [sigh]
I've done one or two of them, but the questions have to do something for me. Sorry you won't read 'em, KD, but once you're reading the other stuff, its all good...
"DON'T engage in any of the degenerate forms of seppuku that involve stabbing yourself with a paper fan: they are vulgar and a paper cut can be quite nasty."
Damn. I hate paper cuts!!!
Are we still guzzling Mead, or have we moved on the the Sake yet?
I don't think there is anything picky, or bitchy about your dislike of the "meme" posts. It just is. I never do them either, but mostly because I am lazy. And because I like to hear the sound of my own mind clapping against nothing.
oh! i love that sound!
i think we've run out of mead and have gone straight for the Bass. ooh! black and tans!! anybody got any Guinness?
when something is as popular as these memes are, obviously it's for a reason -- and i think that Kathryn explained it very honestly, that it's when she doesn't want to write about too personal stuff. i understand that, and it confirms my thought that these things are done sometimes in avoidance of having to write about what's going on.
what do i do? i write about something other than me, or go take some pictures of something neat, or do an out of context, which though listy in nature requires a lot of thorough surfing and is very entertaining. these are the ways i avoid whining that i'm fat, overdrawn, and would like to go curl up in the corner, thank you very much. you know, or things of that nature.
This is what qualifies you for bitchiness?? The House O' JadedJu may need to hold a Bitchiness Weekend (perhaps in August, in Vegas?) to give you pointers in real, outsized bad behavior.
some of the online tests are amusing, but most of them are crap (which Backstreet Boy are you? {{{shudder}}})........
well, it is kinda bitchy that i posted this knowing that some people that i really like who do these are going to think i'm, you know, a bitch, that i'm putting them down for doing them or being stuck up about it or....
yeah, you're right. i think a workshop on bitchyness would do me some good, 'cause this is a rather weak effort. i shall learn at your feet, miss Ju.
Is this one of those anti-meme memes? Just checking, because I didn't see any scores anywhere.....
it's not a meme, i don't think. at least not yet. if it starts another anti-meme meme, that would be interesting, i love a good paradox.
jesus, i am so late to find things today. what a party over here.
anyway, i hate all things blog. i mean, don't get me wrong, i love blogs. i have done one quiz, or maybe two. i posted one of them on my blog, months ago. but now i am so sick of them. i've never done a *day* *number* question list. and i also hate blogs that are pretty much only about blogging. mostly, i want to learn about people. and i try to keep my blog away from the topic of blogging, as much as possible.
but this is just my preference. i'm glad there are blogs for everybody. blogs about blogging, blogs about not blogging, blogs about blowing up blogs and blogs about frogging.
so there.
and just in case i haven't disclaimered myself here yet:
i am a giant ball of contradictions. tomorrow my blog will probably be all about blogging.
blogging about blogging is something i generally object to, unless i'm doing it, or someone else is doing it in a manner that i tend to agree with, or if not, that i can debate. and it should be brief, and to the point, and not ramble on and on as many 'blogging about blogging' posts seem to do.
i'm pretty sure that managing to never blog about blogging, is either impossible or requires more self control than i've ever known, or possibly is indicative of complete and utter cluelessness. we are self-aware beings, and if we aren't looking at what we're doing, well, that would be... weird.
We likes you that way. Is that the piss or the vinegar. They all taste the same to me. By the by, I realllllllllly like your new email an entry thing. That is brilliant. I'm still recommending you for canonization, despite your meme-abhorance.
I don't even know what a meme is. I thought it was crappy spelling on someones part.
you're right, it's impossible to *never* blog about blogging, and that woudn't be right. i'm just a coward who would rather let the blogging-about-blogging happen on your blog instead of mine. :)
and i love it here. please say i can stay.
stay! i insist you stay! kick your shoes off, put your feet up (or, keep the shoes on, i don't mind shoes on the furniture). got some coffee brewing, or would you like some tea?
yum yum. i love coffee when someone else makes it. thank you for your hospitality, ma'am! :)
soy milk and extra sugar, right?
you mean you don't care what I like on my pizza???
bitch!
[sigh] yes, yes i am a bitch. a complete, and utter bitch. it's such a relief to come out of the closet on this, you have no idea.
It�s funny with these memes. I love to participate in them but I hardly ever read what others answered. Like the Friday Five. I really, really love them. It�s just that I can�t remember any other people participating in this and it�s really quite popular. Oh my God, I did something popular. Urgh. Shame on me. ;0) However, where was I? Oh right. Memes may be uninteresting for the readers but I still think a blog�s not just entertainment for others but something you do for yourself. Wh should I try to be something like a substitute for TV for someone I don�t even know? I�ve got better things to do...like amusing myself. So maybe I�m the egoistic bitch here?!
I know what you mean, kd. You don't want to upset anyone, or whatever, but surely you're saying something that other people are thinking, too.
Now, I've got a few questions for you that I want everyone to post in their weblogs, mmk?
Yes, memes sucksucksuck, but you rock, you unbitchy wannabe bitch ;o)
I'm soooo late to this party, but I agree with kd. I see the Thursday Threesome things, or whatever day it is, boring and just a type of filler. I also feel that way about the little tests (which TeleTubby are you? or whatever). But the cool thing about the Internet in general, and blogs specifically, is that there is so much to choose from. I can ignore the stuff I find boring and still have plenty to read.
Live and let live. If it feels good, do it. To each their own.
I got some Guinness AND some Bass! I love Black and Tans!
It's kind of humorous to see meme's meaning dilute itself out due to it's own success. I suspect that it's just another name for known linguistic forces. That we can see the viral spread of ideas in a different light today we apply a genetic analogy. This is like how the mind was thought to work like the phone system in Edison's day. It was thought to work like a computer later and as that computer became more interconnected so did the analogy. Though who knows, maybe we've finally got it right.
To build on the bitchyness a bit, the reason weblog (It's not a web or log in some literal sense so let's call it "blog." -Ack) memes are irritating to some people is that they are a content virus and something akin to training wheels. If you write a response to them negatively, you are creating an antidote. So one meme kills another and that would be it. Though even better is to introduce a better meme. Something with real meaning or importance perhaps? Really just an example. Though I do support it.
I'm of a divided mind about this (not unusual, all things considered). I've just started on this whole blogging thing within the last month. I used to keep a page updated with my poetry and revisions and the like, but it just came to be too much work to keep up once I had a kid. Plus, having a kid and not doing that whole "sleeping" thing much, I wasn't writing.
Even at first, when I started blogging, it was mostly online tests with cute little graphics (science geek, Owl from Pooh, etc.) for the first couple of days, before I started to really read and branch out. (This is becoming long, I'd best cut it short or no one will read it).
Suffice to say, some of these meme things I don't much get into. I just started up on the Friday Five this week and don't think I'll do another one -- I don't watch TV and so was instantly feeling like I was posting Content That Wasn't Content. I ended up taking it down, I felt so awkward with it. On the other hand, the Monday Mission this week had me explaining something I'd have never really explained otherwise -- specifically, the origin of "VASpider."
Thus, I'm divided. I definitely don't do more than skim if the site's more than 20-25% missions/tests/etc. It's kind of an arbitrary thing, that decision.
Ehm. This ended up a bit longer than I intended. I even tried to cut it off partway through. Mea culpa.
I think that ended up babbly. I understood what I was trying to say. Sometimes the memes help me write. A launchpad, maybe, an effective writing exercise.
Sometimes they are lame.
(Why didn't it come out that simply the first time?)
interesting perspective -- and certainly having a child and no sleep (i've been there) puts quite a strain on the creative energies. i understand completely.
one commenter responded, well, i like doing them, but i don't read other people's -- and this is brings up probably the most basic of truths here. your blog is for you. if other people read it, they should do so with that in mind -- it's your space and you do with it what you want.
i know lots of people who do them. i don't hold anything against them, or the memes, it's just i don't read them, and at some level it bugs me, but that's just me and my opinion. i felt the need to express it because the darn things are rampant all over blogland.
True, that. I'm just uncomfortable not having Content Worth Reading on my blog page. If I'm reading it back and thinking, "Lord, this is boring as all hell," then not only shouldn't it stay on my site, but it must bore someone who doesn't know me to tears.
I tend to read these answers only if they're as illuminating as something that someone would have come up with themselves. Occasionally, if people put thought into these memebits, then they become writing exercises.
If not, then they're just another example of the Wild Meme which should be put down and strangled. I dislike the whole 'oooh, ooh, I'm first to have mine in!' making it some sort of quickness contest. Of course, I readily admit to using these things for different purposes than which they were likely intended.
Thanks for the email, by the way, kd. Much appreciated. If I weren't going to do so before, now I simply have to steal a button and link you. Thoughtfulness, even while being bitchy. Who'd'a thunk?
vaspider, you have no problem whatsoever (far as i can tell) coming up with compelling, very readable content. loving your blog, and your poetry.
use the memes as writing exercises proudly then. i'll make the exception in your case and read them ... or try to, the annoyance factor in these things is significant.
in any case, you're doing great things with your new blog.