Comments on: pain is interesting http://dotlizard.com/posts/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/ here we are, trapped in the amber of the moment. there is no why. Sat, 03 Dec 2011 17:55:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: BaldFatGuy http://dotlizard.com/posts/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/comment-page-1/#comment-16276 BaldFatGuy Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:53:44 +0000 http://dotlizard.com/wp/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/#comment-16276 Fuck pain. it overcomes me and i turn into this evil little hobbit, actually i think something more sinister than that. it turns me into to a grouch, when in pain i can stare down a cat, even a hungry one, and scream at anyone who whispers too. tooth ache is not pain to me its some nasty little fuck who has a sharp implement jabbing into the nerve ending, asking, ' is it safe' over and over. also when in really nasty pain such as when some other countries government proffesional torture guy, injects you with some stuff that makes every nerve ache and scream (actually the sreaming was me) but the funny thing is the more they do it to you the less you notice, and after a while you can see past the blood in your eyes, and tell him to go fuck himself. of course what he does to you next makes you wish you had kept your mouth shut, but there it is. oh where was i , got lost in remembering the fun i had in the service, go get the thing pulled its the best way. Fuck pain. it overcomes me and i turn into this evil little hobbit, actually i think something more sinister than that. it turns me into to a grouch, when in pain i can stare down a cat, even a hungry one, and scream at anyone who whispers too. tooth ache is not pain to me its some nasty little fuck who has a sharp implement jabbing into the nerve ending, asking, ‘ is it safe’ over and over. also when in really nasty pain such as when some other countries government proffesional torture guy, injects you with some stuff that makes every nerve ache and scream (actually the sreaming was me) but the funny thing is the more they do it to you the less you notice, and after a while you can see past the blood in your eyes, and tell him to go fuck himself. of course what he does to you next makes you wish you had kept your mouth shut, but there it is. oh where was i , got lost in remembering the fun i had in the service, go get the thing pulled its the best way.

]]> By: lavonne http://dotlizard.com/posts/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/comment-page-1/#comment-16275 lavonne Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:48:54 +0000 http://dotlizard.com/wp/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/#comment-16275 oh dear. i may never complain about my pathetic migraines again. oh dear. i may never complain about my pathetic migraines again.

]]> By: lizard http://dotlizard.com/posts/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/comment-page-1/#comment-16274 lizard Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:55:53 +0000 http://dotlizard.com/wp/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/#comment-16274 i wouldn't call myself a practitioner. i'm more like, somone who dabbles in it under duress. i've always believed it was mind over matter, i was born knowing that, though it was a rough patch there growing up around people that thought that was all a buncha bullshit. <br /><br />if i were more assertive / aggressive & not quite so overtly misanthropic, i would have made a great cult leader / guru. i mean, i sit around thinking up stuff like this all the time. all the damn time, man. i'm like, an oracle or someshit.<br /><br />so if someone wants to handle fleecing the recruits & handling the offshore banking, i'd happily be the mysterious guru/leader that no one ever really gets to talk to. i could sit around & make this shit up all day, while nubile young men in black lace bustiers & garter belts fed me grapes & shit. oh man, i could totally do that. i wouldn’t call myself a practitioner. i’m more like, somone who dabbles in it under duress. i’ve always believed it was mind over matter, i was born knowing that, though it was a rough patch there growing up around people that thought that was all a buncha bullshit.

if i were more assertive / aggressive & not quite so overtly misanthropic, i would have made a great cult leader / guru. i mean, i sit around thinking up stuff like this all the time. all the damn time, man. i’m like, an oracle or someshit.

so if someone wants to handle fleecing the recruits & handling the offshore banking, i’d happily be the mysterious guru/leader that no one ever really gets to talk to. i could sit around & make this shit up all day, while nubile young men in black lace bustiers & garter belts fed me grapes & shit. oh man, i could totally do that.

]]> By: r@d@r http://dotlizard.com/posts/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/comment-page-1/#comment-16273 r@d@r Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:36:10 +0000 http://dotlizard.com/wp/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/#comment-16273 fantastic - when did you become a meditation practitioner? <p> the thing i always tell myself is 'it's just information - receive the message and it will diminish. ignore the message and it will keep giving it to you until you pay attention.' i think 90% of what makes major, chronic pain unbearable is that we tense up against it. <p> you have mad skillz woman. are you sure you've never been a hunter or a soldier? scratch that, never mind - you're a mom...</p></p> fantastic – when did you become a meditation practitioner?

the thing i always tell myself is ‘it’s just information – receive the message and it will diminish. ignore the message and it will keep giving it to you until you pay attention.’ i think 90% of what makes major, chronic pain unbearable is that we tense up against it.

you have mad skillz woman. are you sure you’ve never been a hunter or a soldier? scratch that, never mind – you’re a mom…

]]> By: lizard http://dotlizard.com/posts/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/comment-page-1/#comment-16272 lizard Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:06:13 +0000 http://dotlizard.com/wp/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/#comment-16272 barbara, i have an amazing wonderful immune system, actually one of the first things i mind over mattered. there have been two phrases, mantras i suppose, that have been on repeat in the back of my mind for a long time - decades. "i am young strong & healthy" and "i believe in my body's natural ability to heal itself". i rarely rarely take antibiotics, i prefer to kick bacterial infections as well as viral, the only time to take an antibiotic is when i feel my body asking for the help. therefore, i can kick a tooth infection's ass for a good long time. i keep my lymph nodes in shape by eating food off the floor (even if it's been there awhile), not washing my hands before i eat (especially old floor food), having lizards run loose in my house (i laugh at salmonella. after the first time, salmonella ain't shit. after the third time, it's just burps.), there are very few things i avoid because of germs. so i'm well qualified to tough out a dead dental nerve or three, don't try this at home folks i am a professional. <br /><br />& Laurie, for the record i am a big fan of painkillers. i think if at all possible doctors should relieve pain & it should feel fun. pain relief, it's such a happy thing. even better if you save the happy pills for after you get well enough to enjoy them. however i am, well, relieved to finally have found myself in a situation that taught me how to handle pain without whining for vicodin. because i couldn't, really. & it's good to know i can handle it. barbara, i have an amazing wonderful immune system, actually one of the first things i mind over mattered. there have been two phrases, mantras i suppose, that have been on repeat in the back of my mind for a long time – decades. “i am young strong & healthy” and “i believe in my body’s natural ability to heal itself”. i rarely rarely take antibiotics, i prefer to kick bacterial infections as well as viral, the only time to take an antibiotic is when i feel my body asking for the help. therefore, i can kick a tooth infection’s ass for a good long time. i keep my lymph nodes in shape by eating food off the floor (even if it’s been there awhile), not washing my hands before i eat (especially old floor food), having lizards run loose in my house (i laugh at salmonella. after the first time, salmonella ain’t shit. after the third time, it’s just burps.), there are very few things i avoid because of germs. so i’m well qualified to tough out a dead dental nerve or three, don’t try this at home folks i am a professional.

& Laurie, for the record i am a big fan of painkillers. i think if at all possible doctors should relieve pain & it should feel fun. pain relief, it’s such a happy thing. even better if you save the happy pills for after you get well enough to enjoy them. however i am, well, relieved to finally have found myself in a situation that taught me how to handle pain without whining for vicodin. because i couldn’t, really. & it’s good to know i can handle it.

]]> By: laurie http://dotlizard.com/posts/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/comment-page-1/#comment-16271 laurie Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:10:10 +0000 http://dotlizard.com/wp/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/#comment-16271 This is so interesting to me. my father-in-law is a surgeon who loves to promote the news that pain is a mental construct and that no one really knows quite how the pain response works and how it differs among individuals. I often try to talk myself down out of aches and pains from cramps or headaches. It's amazing the way you can transform what you're feeling by paying close attention to it, just the way you were describing. i agree, i don't like feeling pain but I like not feeling like it's the boss of me, you know? This is so interesting to me. my father-in-law is a surgeon who loves to promote the news that pain is a mental construct and that no one really knows quite how the pain response works and how it differs among individuals. I often try to talk myself down out of aches and pains from cramps or headaches. It’s amazing the way you can transform what you’re feeling by paying close attention to it, just the way you were describing.

i agree, i don’t like feeling pain but I like not feeling like it’s the boss of me, you know?

]]> By: barbara http://dotlizard.com/posts/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/comment-page-1/#comment-16270 barbara Fri, 09 Jan 2004 05:00:50 +0000 http://dotlizard.com/wp/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/#comment-16270 is it infected? a wanna be root canal is a severely decayed tooth, and if the decay has resulted in infection something will have to be done. these electrical charges are near your brain for starters. anyhow. i used to work for a dentist [as a writer]. if you don't have any peridex, gargle with salt water. if you have an abscess that should relieve it at least a little til you get yo' ass to a dds. and p.s. i feel for you - i've escaped toothaches so far but know they can indeed be as painful as giving birth. is it infected? a wanna be root canal is a severely decayed tooth, and if the decay has resulted in infection something will have to be done. these electrical charges are near your brain for starters. anyhow. i used to work for a dentist [as a writer]. if you don’t have any peridex, gargle with salt water. if you have an abscess that should relieve it at least a little til you get yo’ ass to a dds. and p.s. i feel for you – i’ve escaped toothaches so far but know they can indeed be as painful as giving birth.

]]> By: lizard http://dotlizard.com/posts/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/comment-page-1/#comment-16269 lizard Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:56:15 +0000 http://dotlizard.com/wp/2004/01/pain-is-interesting/#comment-16269 see i totally have this solipsistic thing going on about how everything's electrochemistry. i mean, <b>it really is all in your mind</b>. <br /><br />you know that right? & all in mine. yeah. like this book thing i may or may not be still fucking with: <blockquote> is it real? reality is all electrochemical processes in the synapses, so yes. although most of my own reality is probably mine and mine only, i imagine. and i imagine constantly, and consider it vital to my survival. without it, none of the tangible measurable definite absolute verifiable actual shit out there would matter. i inhabit my own mind primarily and the world as necessary, and sparingly, never all of me. always part of me is wandering in the mind; i would say this keeps me sane however technically it makes me quite the opposite. delusional, anti-social, disassociative, handful of extra personalities, little nihilism thrown in for good measure� hell, i�m half the DSM4 on any given day, and i�m here to tell you, the illness is not the issue here - it�s the presentation. it�s in the way that you use it, it comes and it goes. it�s about style and proper form and a firm, solid stroke. it�s the spin and the way you use the wind. it�s in the wrist, mostly. </blockquote> see i totally have this solipsistic thing going on about how everything’s electrochemistry. i mean, it really is all in your mind.

you know that right? & all in mine. yeah. like this book thing i may or may not be still fucking with:

is it real? reality is all electrochemical processes in the synapses, so yes. although most of my own reality is probably mine and mine only, i imagine. and i imagine constantly, and consider it vital to my survival. without it, none of the tangible measurable definite absolute verifiable actual shit out there would matter. i inhabit my own mind primarily and the world as necessary, and sparingly, never all of me. always part of me is wandering in the mind; i would say this keeps me sane however technically it makes me quite the opposite. delusional, anti-social, disassociative, handful of extra personalities, little nihilism thrown in for good measure� hell, i�m half the DSM4 on any given day, and i�m here to tell you, the illness is not the issue here – it�s the presentation. it�s in the way that you use it, it comes and it goes. it�s about style and proper form and a firm, solid stroke. it�s the spin and the way you use the wind. it�s in the wrist, mostly.

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