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	<title>Comments on: proposition 8 and the politics of hate</title>
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		<title>By: lizard</title>
		<link>http://dotlizard.com/posts/2008/10/proposition-8-and-the-politics-of-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-16779</link>
		<dc:creator>lizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the lizard is from http://www.stockxpert.com/ -- they have the most awesome stock images, prices starting with a buck. the lizard, he was a buck. all the critters on http://pobo.me were also from there - and also a buck. search for &#039;illustrations&#039; and whatever you&#039;re looking for and there are some very awesome artists. now let&#039;s see if the links are converted when i submit this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the lizard is from <a href="http://www.stockxpert.com/">http://www.stockxpert.com/</a> &#8212; they have the most awesome stock images, prices starting with a buck. the lizard, he was a buck. all the critters on <a href="http://pobo.me">http://pobo.me</a> were also from there &#8211; and also a buck. search for &#8216;illustrations&#8217; and whatever you&#8217;re looking for and there are some very awesome artists. now let&#8217;s see if the links are converted when i submit this!</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenX</title>
		<link>http://dotlizard.com/posts/2008/10/proposition-8-and-the-politics-of-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-16774</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did you find the lizard with a brew?
 I like em
Your new rss is fubar like mine.

It is always fubar in IE (who cares really)
but occasionally in FF .. like yours this morning.

Will keep trying to get this RSS but I know better now.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;CitizenX&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://tanjents.com/wazzuptechsexy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wazzup+tech=sexy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did you find the lizard with a brew?<br />
 I like em<br />
Your new rss is fubar like mine.</p>
<p>It is always fubar in IE (who cares really)<br />
but occasionally in FF .. like yours this morning.</p>
<p>Will keep trying to get this RSS but I know better now.</p>
<p><abbr><em>CitizenX&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://tanjents.com/wazzuptechsexy/">wazzup+tech=sexy</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: CitizenX</title>
		<link>http://dotlizard.com/posts/2008/10/proposition-8-and-the-politics-of-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-16770</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you. You just made my point.

This is EXACTLY why I shunned rss feeds in the begining. I am not saying I did not TRUST them, I&#039;d just rather go see for myself via internet surf whether or not they updated.

I rss&#039;d you. No updates in-quite-a-while

Then I blog about your greatness (in progress)
and have to direct link so I surf on for correct linkage
And I sit here giggling madly cursing the damn RSS.

You have been playing. Oh.Yes.You.Have.
I am soo sorry I am just now chiming in.

And I wish I lived in CA like you
So I could vote NO on Prop 8

Loved you long time, gal.
Keep rockin.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;CitizenX&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://tanjents.com/all-tech-update-finally-i-know/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;All tech update.. finally  !!! (I know)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. You just made my point.</p>
<p>This is EXACTLY why I shunned rss feeds in the begining. I am not saying I did not TRUST them, I&#8217;d just rather go see for myself via internet surf whether or not they updated.</p>
<p>I rss&#8217;d you. No updates in-quite-a-while</p>
<p>Then I blog about your greatness (in progress)<br />
and have to direct link so I surf on for correct linkage<br />
And I sit here giggling madly cursing the damn RSS.</p>
<p>You have been playing. Oh.Yes.You.Have.<br />
I am soo sorry I am just now chiming in.</p>
<p>And I wish I lived in CA like you<br />
So I could vote NO on Prop 8</p>
<p>Loved you long time, gal.<br />
Keep rockin.</p>
<p><abbr><em>CitizenX&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://tanjents.com/all-tech-update-finally-i-know/">All tech update.. finally  !!! (I know)</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: ImYourBoyJ</title>
		<link>http://dotlizard.com/posts/2008/10/proposition-8-and-the-politics-of-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-16739</link>
		<dc:creator>ImYourBoyJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for taking the time to write this. I was moved to tears, actually.

Prop 8 will be a groundbreaking moment if it does pass. Americans have spent decades taking discrimination out of the Constitution... Abolition of Slavery, Womens Suffrage, Protecting Children... Yet, for the first time we may be writing it INTO the Constitution. AND in California... one of the most Liberal states in the country.

Being a young gay man, I have always dreamed of someday getting married. And now my concern is living long enough to see that day happen. Being a young HIV+ Gay man... I sure hope that will happen.

One of the fundamental rights that is most important that comes out of a Marriage... being able to have your spouse with you when you die. Right now, if I were in a hospital, my partner (if I had one) would not be allowed into the room... or be able to make important decisions for me. Not fair. 

Anyway, I am doing my part to educate and spread the word. Please Vote No on Prop 8... Everyone deserves Happily Ever After.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;ImYourBoyJ&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://imyourboyj.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/20/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;+&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for taking the time to write this. I was moved to tears, actually.</p>
<p>Prop 8 will be a groundbreaking moment if it does pass. Americans have spent decades taking discrimination out of the Constitution&#8230; Abolition of Slavery, Womens Suffrage, Protecting Children&#8230; Yet, for the first time we may be writing it INTO the Constitution. AND in California&#8230; one of the most Liberal states in the country.</p>
<p>Being a young gay man, I have always dreamed of someday getting married. And now my concern is living long enough to see that day happen. Being a young HIV+ Gay man&#8230; I sure hope that will happen.</p>
<p>One of the fundamental rights that is most important that comes out of a Marriage&#8230; being able to have your spouse with you when you die. Right now, if I were in a hospital, my partner (if I had one) would not be allowed into the room&#8230; or be able to make important decisions for me. Not fair. </p>
<p>Anyway, I am doing my part to educate and spread the word. Please Vote No on Prop 8&#8230; Everyone deserves Happily Ever After.</p>
<p><abbr><em>ImYourBoyJ&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://imyourboyj.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/20/">+</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: You&#8217;re gay? You want to get married!?! &#171; Fear &#38; Parenting in Las Vegas</title>
		<link>http://dotlizard.com/posts/2008/10/proposition-8-and-the-politics-of-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-16725</link>
		<dc:creator>You&#8217;re gay? You want to get married!?! &#171; Fear &#38; Parenting in Las Vegas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with for the last two years. In case you missed it, DotLizard drafted a very articulate post about her position against California&#8217;s proposition 8 - the anti gay marriage amendment to California&#8217;s constitution. I was pleased to be one of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with for the last two years. In case you missed it, DotLizard drafted a very articulate post about her position against California&#8217;s proposition 8 &#8211; the anti gay marriage amendment to California&#8217;s constitution. I was pleased to be one of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lizard</title>
		<link>http://dotlizard.com/posts/2008/10/proposition-8-and-the-politics-of-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-16721</link>
		<dc:creator>lizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 04:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am so glad i know the both of you, it&#039;s very comforting after researching this post and hearing so many people saying so many ugly things. 

i hope good will prevail in this. i really, really do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am so glad i know the both of you, it&#8217;s very comforting after researching this post and hearing so many people saying so many ugly things. </p>
<p>i hope good will prevail in this. i really, really do.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://dotlizard.com/posts/2008/10/proposition-8-and-the-politics-of-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-16714</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice piece! You are a very passionate writer. I really hope and pray that prop 8 doesn&#039;t pass, but I&#039;m preparing myself for the worse.

I think there has been a great surge in the popularity of what I call &quot;cultural christianity.&quot; Cultural christianity is really just cultural values labeled as christianity to lend it more validity, but it has little in common with what true Christianity is supposed to be about. True Christianity is the following of Jesus Christ, a man who loved all people (yes, even the gay ones!) and died so that we could be spared. 

I think cultural christians feel like they have to pick a fight in order to prove how awesome and righteous they are, but often times they haven&#039;t even studied the bible or the teachings of Christ. At the end of the day, this issue has very little to do with God and everything to do with culture. Jesus didn&#039;t even talk about homosexuality; trust me, I&#039;ve scoured the bible for that specific thing. On the other hand, there are so many things Jesus did expressly say were wrong that aren&#039;t illegal (adultery, greed, lying) so why are people in such a snit about gay marriage? Because it grosses them out, they just don&#039;t want to admit it.

Someday gay marriage will be permanently legal, I just hope I live to see it.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Julie&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://calinazaret.net/no-on-prop-8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NO on Prop 8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice piece! You are a very passionate writer. I really hope and pray that prop 8 doesn&#8217;t pass, but I&#8217;m preparing myself for the worse.</p>
<p>I think there has been a great surge in the popularity of what I call &#8220;cultural christianity.&#8221; Cultural christianity is really just cultural values labeled as christianity to lend it more validity, but it has little in common with what true Christianity is supposed to be about. True Christianity is the following of Jesus Christ, a man who loved all people (yes, even the gay ones!) and died so that we could be spared. </p>
<p>I think cultural christians feel like they have to pick a fight in order to prove how awesome and righteous they are, but often times they haven&#8217;t even studied the bible or the teachings of Christ. At the end of the day, this issue has very little to do with God and everything to do with culture. Jesus didn&#8217;t even talk about homosexuality; trust me, I&#8217;ve scoured the bible for that specific thing. On the other hand, there are so many things Jesus did expressly say were wrong that aren&#8217;t illegal (adultery, greed, lying) so why are people in such a snit about gay marriage? Because it grosses them out, they just don&#8217;t want to admit it.</p>
<p>Someday gay marriage will be permanently legal, I just hope I live to see it.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Julie&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://calinazaret.net/no-on-prop-8">NO on Prop 8</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Fear and Parenting in Las Vegas</title>
		<link>http://dotlizard.com/posts/2008/10/proposition-8-and-the-politics-of-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-16713</link>
		<dc:creator>Fear and Parenting in Las Vegas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 01:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree with you more. It&#039;s unconscionable that we&#039;re actually drafting language to amend a constitution (a document intended to guarantee citizen rights) to deny rights to a certain population. The validity or strength of my marriage, which happens to be a heterosexual one, is by no means threatened by two people of the same gender being able to join in a loving covenant, express the permanence and persistence of their love, and have that bond recognized with all of the legal and social rights therein.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Fear and Parenting in Las Vegas&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://fearandparenting.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/yep-im-all-about-bette/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Yep. I’m All About Bette&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more. It&#8217;s unconscionable that we&#8217;re actually drafting language to amend a constitution (a document intended to guarantee citizen rights) to deny rights to a certain population. The validity or strength of my marriage, which happens to be a heterosexual one, is by no means threatened by two people of the same gender being able to join in a loving covenant, express the permanence and persistence of their love, and have that bond recognized with all of the legal and social rights therein.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Fear and Parenting in Las Vegas&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://fearandparenting.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/yep-im-all-about-bette/">Yep. I’m All About Bette</a></em></abbr></p>
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