4 responses to “proposition 8 and the failure to communicate”

  1. thehawke

    I wasn’t down there and so didn’t see the campaigns run day in and day out. I THOUGHT our crowd down there would have it handled pretty well and I turned my mind to local matters and, of course, the election for a new president. Oops, my bad, as if I am arrogant enough to think that my input into the process could have changed anything (but well, in a year of change, who knows?).

    And I’d like to point out that the fight should NOT be taken to the other minorities who appeared to leave us in the dust. You can slice the exit poll data any way you want and the current power structure would like nothing more than to have us tearing at each others’ throats. So stop dropping N-bombs. Stop threatening your neighbors based on the color of their skin. The neighbor may be just as affected by this outcome as you. The neighbor could be gay. And black. Or Latino. Do not fall into the trap that the true perpetrators of this crime against their state constitution has laid for us.

    The fight needs to be taken to the Religio-Industrial Complex that has managed to circumvent the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause. Right now, the RIC has an unfair advantage of being able to hide behind their tax-free status while lobbying political entities to pass legislation that enforces its beliefs. Yes, I believe churches have every right to free speech. And I do NOT consider every church to be a member of the RIC. But the Catholic church? The Mormon church? Absofuckinlutely, they need to be taken to account.

    If ANY religious entity wishes to enforce their beliefs upon the populace at large thru the political process, they MUST be made to pay the same tax rate as any special-interest group seeking to influence public policy. Let’s level the playing field.

    But first, let’s stop the back-biting and snarling and build bridges, people. Our fight will continue and in order to win, we NEED the people that some of you are hurting with your thoughtless emotionalism. I challenge the people in my queer community to open dialog with a “yes on 8″ supporter with an open heart and mind. No N-bombs, no telling Latinos to go home. We’ve come father in the past 20 years than I ever though possible because we have educated those around us. We must continue to do so.

  2. Daigan

    I wrote a long post on my site, but I think basically it is a matter of communication. We on the No side didn’t get our message out soon enough, hard enough, and without forcing the gay side of the issue back in the closet. We worried about offending rather than risking offense to tell the truth. SOmetimes honest communication is hard. But if we can stick it out the rewards are boundless.

  3. Linkmeister

    You did more research than I.

    I don’t live in Ca., so I can’t evaluate the effectiveness of the No on 8 campaign, but surely it could have done some good by pointing out from whom the financial backing of the Yes crowd came. “Do you want a church which runs an entire state telling you how you should think?

    This was a remarkable ad, but I wonder (I saw this idea somewhere) if it might not have been even more effective if its two principal women had been in their 60s rather than their 30s.

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